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Online school for FreeBSD
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jt
2010-04-10 05:34:59 UTC
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I've been doing searches for online schools that teach FreeBSD. I've been trying to learn on an off for years but when it starts getting complicated, I get stuck. The handbook don't do allot of good.

My goal is simply this. I want to open a small business, A server, To lease out web space, domains, etc etc. I want to start small and possibly expand to a rack of servers and so on.

I've been searching all say and cannot find ANY online schools that teach FreeBSD. From what I understand, FreeBSD is the best for security and control. I'll be leasing out shell space too so I need security like sh3lls.net. A company like that is eventually what Id like to accomplish. But I need to know the ground up. I don't want to trust an employee with root access to my server.

I remember seeing a book out there specific to what I'm trying to do.

Anyway, I hope you can hook me up with a school. Or the proper books anyway. FreeBSD for dummies or something.

You guys do excellent work. I hope not only to learn but someday contribute back to the freebsd community.

Thanks for you're time.
Robert Huff
2010-04-10 13:38:06 UTC
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Post by jt
I've been doing searches for online schools that teach FreeBSD. I've
been trying to learn on an off for years but when it starts getting
complicated, I get stuck. The handbook don't do a lot of good.
My goal is simply this. I want to open a small business, A server,
To lease out web space, domains, etc etc. I want to start small and
possibly expand to a rack of servers and so on.
While there is applicable information, based on your
description I do not believe this is a job the Handbook was ever
intended to address.
Post by jt
I've been searching all say and cannot find ANY online schools that
teach FreeBSD. From what I understand, FreeBSD is the best for
security and control. I'll be leasing out shell space too so I need
security like sh3lls.net. A company like that is eventually what Id
like to accomplish. But I need to know the ground up. I don't want
to trust an employee with root access to my server.
What is there in what you want to do that is specific to
FreeBSD? Based on an uninformed guess, it sounds like 90+ percent
of these tasks are UNIX-generic; what's left could easily vary with
your unique case and might be best handled to questions to targeted
mailing lists.
Post by jt
I remember seeing a book out there specific to what I'm trying to do.
However, if someone _has_ done this having that on the record
would be nice.
Post by jt
You guys do excellent work. I hope not only to learn but someday
contribute back to the freebsd community.
See? You have already.


Robert Huff
Roland Smith
2010-04-10 15:38:14 UTC
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Post by jt
I've been doing searches for online schools that teach FreeBSD. I've been
trying to learn on an off for years but when it starts getting complicated,
I get stuck. The handbook don't do allot of good.
Check out http://www.bsdcertification.org/
Post by jt
My goal is simply this. I want to open a small business, A server, To lease
out web space, domains, etc etc. I want to start small and possibly expand
to a rack of servers and so on.
If you are new to FreeBSD and other UNIX-like systems, you should not begin with
starting a business! Learn something about the OS first.

Install FreeBSD om your computer and experiment with it. Subscribe to the
freebsd-questions mailing list and read through the archives of that mailing
list. Install and configure typical server programs; apache, bind, postfix,
mysql. Learn about jail(8). Do read the handbook, because it does contain a
lot of useful information.
Post by jt
I've been searching all say and cannot find ANY online schools that teach
FreeBSD.
Personally, I learned first Linux and then FreeBSD by just installing and
using them. I think a lot of people start that way.

You can download the book "The Complete FreeBSD" from
http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/
Post by jt
But I need to know the ground up. I don't want to trust an
employee with root access to my server.
If you have a hosting business, clients might expect support 24 hours a day, 7
days per week. No single person can manage that!

Roland
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Chris Whitehouse
2010-04-10 22:08:58 UTC
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Post by Roland Smith
Post by jt
I've been doing searches for online schools that teach FreeBSD. I've been
trying to learn on an off for years but when it starts getting complicated,
I get stuck. The handbook don't do allot of good.
You can download the book "The Complete FreeBSD" from
http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/
There is also Absolute FreeBSD
http://www.absolutefreebsd.com/
Only available for purchase though.

Chris
David Newman
2010-04-10 23:14:36 UTC
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Post by Chris Whitehouse
Post by Roland Smith
Post by jt
I've been doing searches for online schools that teach FreeBSD. I've been
trying to learn on an off for years but when it starts getting complicated,
I get stuck. The handbook don't do allot of good.
You can download the book "The Complete FreeBSD" from
http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/
There is also Absolute FreeBSD
http://www.absolutefreebsd.com/
Only available for purchase though.
+1

I've found this and other books by Mr. Lucas to be informative,
accessible and even entertaining, well worth their price.

dn
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Chris
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Balázs Mátéffy
2010-04-10 23:40:39 UTC
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Sorry David for the mail before, I've got the wrong address!

+1 :)

I like the books of M.W.Lucas, easy to read, funny and on the other hand
they have the needed details about the subject.
Post by David Newman
Post by Chris Whitehouse
Post by Roland Smith
Post by jt
I've been doing searches for online schools that teach FreeBSD. I've been
trying to learn on an off for years but when it starts getting complicated,
I get stuck. The handbook don't do allot of good.
You can download the book "The Complete FreeBSD" from
http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/
There is also Absolute FreeBSD
http://www.absolutefreebsd.com/
Only available for purchase though.
+1
I've found this and other books by Mr. Lucas to be informative,
accessible and even entertaining, well worth their price.
dn
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Charlie Kester
2010-04-11 00:20:15 UTC
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Post by David Newman
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Post by jt
I've been doing searches for online schools that teach FreeBSD. I've been
trying to learn on an off for years but when it starts getting complicated,
I get stuck. The handbook don't do allot of good.
You can download the book "The Complete FreeBSD" from
http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/
There is also Absolute FreeBSD
http://www.absolutefreebsd.com/
Only available for purchase though.
+1
I've found this and other books by Mr. Lucas to be informative,
accessible and even entertaining, well worth their price.
Yes, I agree.

Another good book is Dru Lavigne's _The Best of FreeBSD Basics_.

I also like Dru's earlier book _BSD Hacks_.

It's not BSD-specific, but the _Unix Power Tools_ book from O'Reilly is
packed with lots of interesting tidbits.
herbert langhans
2010-04-12 10:45:50 UTC
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I sign here too - Lucas' Absolute FreeBSD covers practically all the aspects when you new to Unix. Its a good choice. A seperate computer for trying out and break'n'reinstall is also a good idea for a start.

Its like learning a foreign language. At the beginning you may wonder how anybody can ever understand this mumbo jumbo. Then you will get an idea of it and go into an experimental stage where many things go wrong. And after some years you wonder that there was a time before where you could not understand such an obvious, logical concept.

Good luck!
herb langhans
Post by jt
I've been doing searches for online schools that teach FreeBSD. I've been trying to learn on an off for years but when it starts getting complicated, I get stuck. The handbook don't do allot of good.
My goal is simply this. I want to open a small business, A server, To lease out web space, domains, etc etc. I want to start small and possibly expand to a rack of servers and so on.
I've been searching all say and cannot find ANY online schools that teach FreeBSD. From what I understand, FreeBSD is the best for security and control. I'll be leasing out shell space too so I need security like sh3lls.net. A company like that is eventually what Id like to accomplish. But I need to know the ground up. I don't want to trust an employee with root access to my server.
I remember seeing a book out there specific to what I'm trying to do.
Anyway, I hope you can hook me up with a school. Or the proper books anyway. FreeBSD for dummies or something.
You guys do excellent work. I hope not only to learn but someday contribute back to the freebsd community.
Thanks for you're time.
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Robert Huff
2010-04-12 12:02:04 UTC
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Post by herbert langhans
I sign here too - Lucas' Absolute FreeBSD covers practically all
the aspects when you new to Unix. Its a good choice. A seperate
computer for trying out and break'n'reinstall is also a good idea
for a start.
Its like learning a foreign language. At the beginning you may
wonder how anybody can ever understand this mumbo jumbo. Then you
will get an idea of it and go into an experimental stage where
many things go wrong. And after some years you wonder that there
was a time before where you could not understand such an obvious,
logical concept.
For UNIX novices willing to read, I strongly recomment _UNIX
System Administration Handbook_
(http://www.amazon.com/UNIX-System-Administration-Handbook-3rd/dp/0130206016/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271073058&sr=1-1).
My version, now out of date, covers Solaris, HP-UX, Red Hat, and
FreeBSD. It's very readable, and while it doesn't cover
everything it teaches enough (including some "how" and "why" to be
able to figure things out from the man pages or third-party
documentation.


Robert Huff

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